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[Alex]

Which again makes Yales censorship Policy EXTREMELY relevant.

"depiction of violence" is one of the examples Yale can use to confiscate a film...

Even though a movie can be 100% against violence, it still may need to show some type of violent moment for the sake of the story.

In a restaurant, they are allowed to say "We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone"

But this is different. Imagine you had to bring your own plates, spoons and forks to a restaurant, they refuse to serve you, and they keep your utensils that you brought in.

Or, they smash them to pieces, and then give them back to you....

I think it's great that Yale cares about what they process, but their warning seems to be far too reaching in scope.

-Alex

[Nigel]

Alex--

I don't want this thread to turn into a debate on censorship. I agree with you about Yale's crazy policy. However, I am simply trying to tell everyone out there where they can get this film processed. Also, as far as I know Yale has never censored stock that has only been processed. I don't know this for sure since I don't use them. If you want to start a Yale thread then go for it. I will join in on the bashing.

[tripplezero]

Wow I was going to use them. Has anyone had there film taken by Yale?

[Nigel]

Well, I thought that if one lab can process 16/35mm ECN2 film--then they should be able to process it is S8. I was wrong. I spoke with about six labs this morning--this what they had to say--

1. They were sure that I was wrong and I was talking about Super8 Sound's film. Thus, I needed to call them.

2. Kodak has not informed them--which made me a crackpot.

3. They were nice and spent time talking with me but informed me that their machine was not set for S8 and at this point they have no plans on changing it.

The search continues. As of now, it looks like Yale and Super8 Sound are it. I will make some more calls today.

[Alex]

That is the million dollar question.

-Alex

[Mildred_BONK]

Alex,
where do you get your film processed?

I need help too on a special effect!
I want to show a 10 sec. sequence in the opening credits backwards, how can I do this,
or will a lab do this??

[Alex]

I put a call in to my very special friend at the office of Unspecified Services...hopefully they can give me additional info.

-Alex

[capul8]

Applecore, check out thread: "Using a light meter w/ my Canon 814" on 1st page for a discussion of Walmart processing.

BTW: "Tone down the violence" so as not to offend the film processing lab?
If the violence is not an important part of your story and Yale is the only lab left in the world, OK (though personally, I'd develop it myself if it came to that)
But if the level of violence (which is part of life) is an integral part of the story, isn't your artistic vision more important than some vague "decency" code at one of several labs?
I don't mean to sound righteous, and hell knows I've let practical needs run roughshod all over my idealistic principles from time to time, but small movies are all about freedom.
Yeah, OK, freedom from fame and money and sanity...but more importantly freedom from other people telling you what to do, what to say or how to say it.
As Don Siegel would say, "Don't give in to the Pod People."
Keep shooting.
Bernie

[Nigel]

Alex--

I agree with you on many issues. However, the last I checked a foot is foot no matter how many frames are in it. We are talking about a machine that does not care about frames. Have you ever been charged by frames shot for movie film? Or have you ever bought film by the frame(Movie Film)?

[AppleCore24]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Courier, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by capul8:
Applecore, check out thread: "Using a light meter w/ my Canon 814" on 1st page for a discussion of Walmart processing.

BTW: "Tone down the violence" so as not to offend the film processing lab?
If the violence is not an important part of your story and Yale is the only lab left in the world, OK (though personally, I'd develop it myself if it came to that)
But if the level of violence (which is part of life) is an integral part of the story, isn't your artistic vision more important than some vague "decency" code at one of several labs?
I don't mean to sound righteous, and hell knows I've let practical needs run roughshod all over my idealistic principles from time to time, but small movies are all about freedom.
Yeah, OK, freedom from fame and money and sanity...but more importantly freedom from other people telling you what to do, what to say or how to say it.
As Don Siegel would say, "Don't give in to the Pod People."
Keep shooting.
Bernie<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I would be rightous too, but with 50 rolls of film 4 dollars more for processing can add up, and when Vision is already putting me way over budget, another 200 dollars just puts the icing on the cake - maybe thats the wrong thingy to use, but you know what i mean. The violence is pretty important, but I've lately been playing around with "implied" viiolence. That's what I meant by cut back. Same death, just not showing as much.

There is certain images that have to be there, because if they are not then what you do is soften the reality of death and violence. Kind of like showing orgie after orgie with no STD's, kids, etc. If I show "sin" in films, its gonna have consequence, and its not going to be pretty.

The question still remains though - has anybody ever known anyone to loose their film to Yale during processing?